Combat Point System, your thoughts

I‘m sorry but with SD EQ Elrianode is too hard for you and you probably didn‘t do any Damage.. I would recommend you to farm lv 23+ Hero Top-Sh, because you can share these Pieces in your Accountbank.

Ot: more dmg when you get hit/hit

Bot: M or PAtk Group buff

Glov: Stacks or boss dmg/itemdrop

Sh: Bossdmg / Itemdrop

I fully understand that this Update has brought a lot of Changes that hinder some in their daily Gameplay. I myself are affected too and can’t enter Drabaki anymore but at least I can enter Elrianode with my Elrianod Top-Sh and Hero Weap. But it also has a lot of good Sides. You can now clear dungeons more easily and with less Frustration!

you just need lv42 weapon to enter drabaki its easy!

just go Underground Chapel and farm it, it gives so much combat!!

my friend gave me this awesome tip, he is so kind!

Trolling | Darkrai

With a full IB avatar and a +10 Henir, I still can't do El-Tower Defense.

Dw | Aerii considering all the other stuff you got I'm not even surprised. What I'd like to see would be the following:

• Hero/Henir +8
• CS-Avatar
• No Pet
• Only Titles which don't take too much time to get
• No ERP
• No Sage-Stones
• As little as possible of the following:
  • Ereda Accs
  • Elyanod Accs
  • Sinister Intent Accs

Show me what you can accomplish with those rules and how you did it, such that other Players can use it as a guideline. It should be possible to hit 150k that way but I'm still trying to figure out how.

Ah so we should NOT use all the cool stuff KOG released for us to make our lifes easier?

I guess you walk to work every day too, because you refuse to use all the awesome transportation possibilities that were invented throughout the years.

Why dont you try to make a hot chocolate for me?

But dont use milk, any kind of chocolate, water or sugar.

It isn't even hard to get high combat points unlike getting high itemlevel. Beginners should start by getting their SD weapon to +8 and to be able to enter heroic dungeons. They should farm 2/5 wrath and 2/5 wisdom (the MPR one). This will already boost your combat points to nearly 70k (which is Type Void entry). Socket your gear with 4~5% critical/maximize and you can enter Type Void. Use your free +8 Heroic Weapon for 30 days to farm the dungeon and get the weapon, then further farm it to get higher stages. The important ones are: Red 1 through 5, Red 11 and 15. Anything else is luxury.

The main constraint here is time, but honestly its an easier entry barrier than item level was. Especially when you can already get to above 100k CP with unoptimized sockets and random heroic effects. If people aren't willed enough to invest time into an mmorpg, then they're better off not playing an mmorpg. This is the sad reality.

so, nearly 78k cp with:

-1 ereda acc(cuz i don't have a regular mana necklace)

-1 sinister intent acc(which isn't hard to get anyway)

-only acc from the item mall or free acc

-a +8 heroic weapon which has lvl21

-+6 top-bottom heroic with bad stats

-bad sockets(the whole custome stuff has only atk speed except the one piece which has crit.) w/o using any sage stones

-78 erp points on bravery dmg cuz lets be as honest as possible, who doesn't want to use erp is just dumb. it isn't even hard to lvl up, it just needs time.

-a title which was easy to get before the cp changes, w/o a title it would be 75,8k

-no pet

and i can enter nearly every dungeon with that. exceptions are:

-varnimyr

-11-4 and 11-5 on normal mode

-drabaki

and to enter even them shouldn't be a hard task. with that gear, you can enter elrianod and grind there with ease. also grinding the void dungeon is possible. hard but possible. it takes time but everything in elsword takes time as a casual player. and i mean, i've got worse equipment than a casual player could get. i didn't even upgrade it to +8 which is now an easy task. so is it really that big of a deal that some content got cut off for players who just aren't ready for it? im pretty sure that if i invested around 20min for a better setup with better sockets with a budget limit of 10m/10kk ed i would've got an even better end result. and for those who want to know how easy it is to get custom stuff nowadays:

you can get

-full custom through the april fools event dungeon

-an one piece through the treasure hunter event dungeon and many events

and if you socket them correctl, it is easy to get even better cp then i've got.

tl;dr: EVERYONE who says that it is impossible for them to do anything now with cp instead of item lvl is a liar. i invested more time on this post than actually caring about my equipment. just saying.

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so is it really that big of a deal that some content got cut off for players who just aren't ready for it?

The CP system arrived in Korea 8 months ago. How can you not be ready for this, please? HOW.??? Did you just perch in pvp or something ..?

Sorry but I really have no understanding. First howl, that for a long time no content comes. And then howl when you aren't ready for this.?

We have 6-8 months until the new Korean content comes to us so enough time to get informed ...

by being a new player.

>+6 4/4

>+8 lvl23 weap

What the hell.

You can upgrade to +8 without breaking your eq now, more than that you get free +9 hero weap from event. I am really happy they did it, because now I play less with ppl who wear eq +5 which I use to feed pet or sell to npc.

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you can upgrade to +8 without breaking your eq now

yeah i know but why should i bother upgrading an equipment im never using? i just wanted to show how much is possible with it. furthermore, i want to use the heroic weapon on an other character than on my ara, who's already got a void weapon and an additional +9 heroic weapon. oh and btw if you had read the posts before, you may have seen the conditions that were given.

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Hero/Henir +8
CS-Avatar
No Pet
Only Titles which don't take too much time to get
No ERP
No Sage-Stones
As little as possible of the following:

Ereda Accs
Elyanod Accs
Sinister Intent Accs

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i followed them except the erp part. the erp part is just dumb and nothing else imo but thats not the point.

I've put the ERP-Part there because you'd usually stack EXP/Droprate first so you don't have points left over for damage. I'm also not questioning wether or not Hero-Gear is enough to enter Elyanod/farm Void. What I want to know is what I need to do to farm Elyanod-Stuff in a somewhat decent way with Hero-Equipment, so at least 100k, better 150k to be able to do 11-4 and 11-5/Drabaki. I want to know wich of the constraints I've put there have to be broken in order to reach that amount.

Should abandon the limitations of
no Sage stones
no Sinister intent 3/3 accessories
and get a ED shop pet whenever it is possible and if you're lucky enough ( Nexxon posted a list of good pets from ED shop that give a small but nice boost on the other CP discussion thread here.
No ERP used either (all on Item drop and EXP gain)
With your constraints even without using the Red Hero gear (which gives a huge boost due to All skill dmg set effect)
I can rack up 72k with Enchanted magic stone socketing (6% on +8 wep, 2.5%/3% on +7 armour, actually some of the sockets are PB charge or other Offensive sockets that add to Battle Strength, ran out of Enchanted magic stones to finish the set socketing...), which is Entry level for Void weapon farming and Elyanod stone farming
Lv: 21(weapon MP gain on hit 7% ID)
Lv: 22(top and bot PB charge 4%, bot being dmg resist but that does not count towards offensive CP)
Lv: 24 (gloves PB duration 4%)

Lv: 29 (shoes DMG resist again, doesn't count towards CP)
Accessories:
Item Mall OR currently available event dungeon exclusive gear that you can get if you do it daily and Perihart's Tear which you can get from Story line quests, apart Eltrion legend necklace but that one has IDs of DMG resist only so... only MP gain stuff are included to CP.
Preferably critical hit and Deva though I am not sure if I imagined it but Critical hit stat gives more CP than everything else.

If we take Sage stones (which are even in current Event: 1 run for 10, 2 runs for 20 and 3 runs for 30 that's 60 Sage stones)and take only sockets that are above 3% on armour and 6% on weapon, would have Red Hero set parts (2/5) at Lv at least 26+, you should be able to hit at least 95k or 100k (feel like I forgot to mention something...)

However that's only in theory as I have not tested it considering I have 300k+ CP on my Raven by CASUALLY playing and farming stones now and then (or stealing from friends...) for Elyanod set and invested a bit on Upgrade event for +11 Void weapon that is not even stage 15 yet, and I use that to farm up any other stones for other characters (apart Elyanod gear because I'd rather do Story quests for ED and a free 4/4 Elyanod)
Can't gurantee it but, it is highly possible in my opinion.
Also it's possible to grab that +9 Hero weapon which is free on D-day event to help you farm Void weapon which would also increase CP by a bit due to higher ATK/MATK.
**Edit**
Right, forgot to add that AND IF your Hero equips have a good Hero effect that adds to CP (Excluding the Stacking or On Hit/being Hit effects since those don't give you any CP)

Here. I'm going to say it's not going to matter if I saged my costume, because I don't have a full set. Details on the CP discussion thread, since I think they're more appropriate in there.

Hero/Henir +8, check.

CS-Avatar, check.

No Pet, nope, I have a Bonbongi. Which is free so it shoudn't matter.

Only Titles which don't take too much time to get, check.

No ERP, check.

No Sage-Stones, technical check.

As little as possible of the following:

Ereda Accs, check.

Elyanod Acc, check.

Sinister Intent Accs, check.

Oh, but I fail the 150k CP check, which was Tosan's whole point. Bummer.

I think it might take less resources to grab the Void box from the 1000-run achievement than investing it into optimizing gear under those resctrictions. A Binding Fire spamming FP, for example, can clear the Add dungeon without much fuss even at the minimum 70k CP required for entry. And then proceed to bankshare the box to your main. 150k CP is so much easier to get with Void, so you might want to put hardcore Elyanod farming behind getting one. You're going to pretty much need one to get into the later updates without whaling anyhow.

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I‘m sorry but with SD EQ Elrianode is too hard for you and you probably didn‘t do any Damage.. I would recommend you to farm lv 23+ Hero Top-Sh, because you can share these Pieces in your Accountbank.

Don't agree with that. Elrianode with SD Equip may be hard but not too hard. I'm getting along wonderfully with that except I cannot even enter the last dungeon on normal anymore because of CPS. So I canmot even try, but story mode is really ok and I daresay easy (except you keep getting hit, at least for me) maybe there should only be lower CPS needed for dungeons.

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Don't agree with that. Elrianode with SD Equip may be hard but not too hard. I'm getting along wonderfully with that except I cannot even enter the last dungeon on normal anymore because of CPS. So I canmot even try, but story mode is really ok and I daresay easy (except you keep getting hit, at least for me) maybe there should only be lower CPS needed for dungeons.

story mode is a complete joke compared to the normal mode, yes it is WAY easier, but also it is much less rewardable and at this point completely irrelevant

I think it should be higher for certain dungeons like 11-5 and Varnimyr. Still I get useless teammates that only deal 100-200kk damage and I would've prefered to get a better queque buff than them. You had so much time to get your gear ready, you got like atleast 200 sage stones (3rd classchange, now also the current events), now you can get a Hero Weapon +9.

I farmed my Void weapon with a +9 Hero weapon, 1k runs because I am unlucky, 2minutes per run. I did this all in 2 weeks because I wanted that weapon so much. It's your problem if you don't want to spend your time correctly in the game.

Ingame people also offered carrying 'services' for free etc. You can easily get elyanod-gear +8, sage stones, farm those stones with a guild, since this game is a multiplayer, get this +9 Hero weapon for free at the moment (not the first one actually that you got for free).

You just got a mount out of the advent calender, a pet (bug beside).

It's really not that hard to get stuff at the moment. You get for free inventory spaces, a one piece (2 actually x)), you can farm your title, ask help on Discord etc.

For example today you can also farm Void dungeon with the Hero weapon +9 in like 2-3minutes and sell those fragments. I spend 100% stamina and got like 50m. Maybe you even played this game a little and you got more stamina potions so you can actually get more of them.

And if you really can't do Void dungeon there are also secret dungeons where you get fragments to sell.

Also Ereda! You don't need gear, only knowledge.

Not having motivation for farming in an asian MMORPG is... well, you shouldn't complain. Why would you also have 5+ twinks? For just doing 'the story' over and over? It is intended to firstly get SD gear, then Henir and then Hero.

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Don't agree with that. Elrianode with SD Equip may be hard but not too hard. I'm getting along wonderfully with that except I cannot even enter the last dungeon on normal anymore because of CPS. So I canmot even try, but story mode is really ok and I daresay easy (except you keep getting hit, at least for me) maybe there should only be lower CPS needed for dungeons.

story mode is a complete joke compared to the normal mode, yes it is WAY easier, but also it is much less rewardable and at this point completely irrelevant

I would prefer being able to at least try it to see how it is going. The other dungeons were okay too at normal mode. Just to have the chance. If I'm not able to win, that's my own problem But you're basically forbidden to enter below the CP to go and try. Before I've been able to enter and that's annoying :3