Posts by Sharoona

    Hatte zwischenzeitlich die Maschine auf der ich spiele gewechselt, deswegen sind meine ältesten Screens nicht mehr verfügbar.

    Aber im Vergleich zu manchen hier hab ich mit dem Spiel auch sehr viel später erst angefangen. So ende 2013 als Ara grad frisch released war.

    Nya. Wegen Odins Speer halt.

    Grad ich mit zu dem Zeitpunkt schwächerer Hardware hatte da echt harte Probleme mit. Aber ich habs dann einfach umspielt, indem ich eben Runs verlassen habe, in denen GA's vorkamen.


    Der Screenshot is noch zu dem Zeitpunkt des Renewals, als Rena's NE System total broken war, solang du 5 NE und etwa 33-34% gesockelte Dmg reduction hattest. Das gab dir nämlich im PvE pretty much God mode, weil die Mobs keinen Add Dmg haben und Perkisas war da keine Ausnahme. Nur Dots wie Feuer oder Gift waren gefährlich.


    TickerZ hatte mir im Ü-channel eine mit der GM exclusive Waffe geklebt. Die hat ja 1kk P und M Attack. Aber da er kein Add Dmg hatte, hat er an mir 0 dmg damit verursacht @w@


    Which brings me back to the Griefplay factor one last time.

    Until GF has worked out an acceptable solution for all involved, adapt to the situation, and/or collect decisive evidence and let the team examine and judge upon it.



    If you want to claim malice, provide evidence thereof. Mexicans are not at fault for you experiencing lag differently or KoG's code trashing your hardware.

    Read and understand everything, before you post something, i would be grateful.

    I'm fully aware, that decisive evidence is required, hence the reason why i already mentioned it at least twice by now.

    I also stated, that the Screenshots i took, just show the result of the lags and following dc by said player. So those do not count as proof, that he/she did it on purpose.

    But, as much as i cannot proof that they are aware of the problems that comes with the distance lag, you cannot proof that they are not aware of it.

    Which results in a stalemate.

    Yet, there were sightings from other player's that some of them are definitly fully aware of it, and abusing it to their advantage or simply do not care about annoying other's. And it's those player's that are indeed asking to get expelled. Especially when boasting about it.


    Your chances to obtain sufficent proof is propably quite a bit higher in PvP. As i stated, for a verdict, you would need proof of them admitting of their awareness, as well as a connected situation to that. However, that is just what i would require to render a verdict. I do not know, if the Team requires more or less to make a ruling.


    Seeing how i feel like that i just keep repeating myself at that point, this will be my last reply on this topic.

    The final decision come's from GF and KoG anyway.

    That may be, which would leave my personal decision that remains unchanged by that factor.

    Be mindful of other Player's. If you are not, then don't be surprised if you get expelled.


    No matter what kind of arguement you make, the point is, if you know about your intercontinental location and the distance lag, that comes with it, and you still force that upon the player's that are located at the right location to play like intented, you put yourself at fault for being not considerate/mindful.

    Now, who's at fault here then? The Developer by programming the game in this matter, so it doesn't support this sufficent? The Player's who are not located in EU? The EU player's for not being okay with this? The Publisher for not restricting the Server's to EU located player's only?


    In my perspective, the one's that are connecting from another continent. However, the ones to blame are only those, that disregard the distance lag issue and therefore forcing it on EU located Player's intentionally.


    Which brings me back to the Griefplay factor one last time.

    Until GF has worked out an acceptable solution for all involved, adapt to the situation, and/or collect decisive evidence and let the team examine and judge upon it.


    Greader don't underestimate the risk that their lags can have on you in PvE. I can show you two screens of an hardware damaging situation that was caused by such a player.

    Considering that they know of their lags and don't care if they cause a bad playing experience for everyone else, i would hold them at fault for their behaviour, and therefore would remove them without second thought.

    But first of all, my personal opinion does not reflect the opinion of everyone, and second, it is not my decision to make.

    This solution sounds plausible but not fair towards those who paid money and a lot of time on this server.

    Indeed, it wouldn't be fair. But that is a ruling i would make, because of two certain criteria's. The first one being, that i see more people voting for it instead of voting against it, therefore a majority decision and second, because i have a personal issue with People not caring what they force upon others by disregarding the problem with the distance lag.


    Then again, i'm all for fairness, hence the reason why i don't put any additional pressure on this matter. badidol already said, that they're working on a fair solution.

    Is vermutlich wegen Bewbz. Noblesse is zwar nicht mehr so flat wie chilliarch z.b aber sehr viel mehr isses auf den Artworks ja auch nicht. Und beim Wechsel zu Ishtar kriegt Sie deutlich mehr.

    Ich glaub den höchsten Bewbzwachstum hatte aber EM zu AeS

    Grad ingame nachgezählt. Ja sind 18 Speere, was regular natürlich nur umso besser in total damage macht.

    Zumal auch der absurde Hit stun von Shadow Bolt selbst bei Bossen eine gute Wirkung zeigt. Also ich bleib da definitiv beim regulären Shadow Bolt. Force Shadow Bolt scheint für mich nur im PvP brauchbar zu sein.


    1434% + 4302% Force Shadow Bolt vs 179% + 505% x 18 regular Shadow Bolt dürfte eindeutig sein.

    Ich hab von Ketsuekii grad die Dmg % von Shadow Bolt Force erhalten.

    Regulärer Shadow Bolt ist trotzdem stärker wenn alle 12 Hits connecten, ausserdem hat man bei dem den Vorteil, dass man eben den Kreis zum zielen bewegen kann.

    Schade, ich hatte mir von der force version etwas mehr versprochen. Ein Nuke Skill mit sehr begrenzter Reichweite direkt vor mir, ist nicht das, worum sich mein Spielstil mit Inno dreht.


    Die 30% Supressionchance (steht noch in Frage ob es 30% Surpression oder Def Pierce/Shred ist) bringt auch nur wirklich im PvP was. Also regular Shadow Bolt für PvE. Die Force version für's PvP.

    Sehe ich das richtig? Shadow Bolt ist ein massiver Hit (bzw 2) statt der üblichen 12 Geschosse?

    Yanne macht es dir was aus, bei dem Shadow Bolt Tooltip für mich nachzuschauen? Der interressiert mich ganz besonders.

    It is common sense to myself to stay out of any que in general if I feel like my connection anywhere is laggy right then.

    That goes for EU too. I had some difficult times around when using my old provider, causing my internet to spike all about the place, which caused me to not even join my friends even though they said they would not mind. It is all about attitude. And as I see it, lots of people who deal with those issues just don't care. Lots of people I came into contact with had an attitude of 'well, this is my server, I can do what I want'.

    Since the rules do not state anything, it is their free right to use and abuse what they got. And it is literally anyone that comes into contact with it, that will suffer from that - regardless of PvP or PvE.

    Right, and if i would pass a verdict based on my own opinion instead of the shaky rules, this attitude you speak of would cause me to kick them out immediatly. People can be selfish for themselves for all i care. But if you interact with other People, and give a damn about their playing experience just to have fun on your own, then you may as well leave and play with the dirt on the street by yourself. That's how i see it.


    There is this one sentence that pops up in the loading screen from time to time i believe? Being mindful of other Player's it was? That is pretty much a baserule which makes the foundation of all other rules, and should be respected by everyone without exceptions. Hence the reason, why my personal verdict would be this unforgiving.

    And yet the fact remains that GF makes the final decision about it, so adapting to the situation or not playing the game until it has been dealt with is the way to go.

    Ketsuekii

    About common sense, I wonder how to make them understand that, if some already fail to zip it even after getting warned a couple times about it.

    But you are right. It is completly normal for me to stay out of queue's, so long i'm aware that my connection is currently unstable. I had that issue in the past, and got kicked out of PvP a couple times. Everytime that happened, i stayed out of all queue's until my connection was stable again (this is no longer a problem, as i've upgraded my Internet to much higher power).


    But how do you make those understand, that they cause problems to everyone else with their distance lag? The rules do not punish anyone for lag, so long those are not caused intentionally. Which brings us back to the decisive evidence of Griefplay actions. You have to get proof, that they are aware of it and abusing it on purpose. The only ones, who will propably be able to collect such evidence are those, who play a lot of PvP. But to be truly decisive, those player's would have to admit that they are indeed aware and abusing it on purpose. Just seeing a laggy match won't count as decisive i'm afraid.


    So as an example, if i were in the position to have the duty to judge and giving a verdict about such cases following the rules that has been set here about it. I would definitly need a Screenshot of the Player in question admitting to his awareness and Videomaterial of the PvP match itself to see the lagging that comes with it. So long you would submit only the recording of the PvP Match, it would not suffice to make a ruling, because it would leave room of doubt about the Players motive, meaning if he is aware of it and abuses it or not. If you submit just a screenshot of him admitting it instead, then the proof of the rule violation would miss. I wouldn't be able to rule out, that he just said it for fun, therefore not being able to reach the conclusion of griefplay, but rather him just lying, which would propably not give the same punishment as griefplay.


    This is just an example though. I don't know how our GM's would handle such a case.