Racism has absolutely nothing to do with internet connection and delay.
It's not about racism but more about discrimination there ''Discrimination : the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people''
You're suggesting to exclude non european because of their high ping hehe you're generalizing once again, plus do not forget that they may have played on this server longer than you do, so you still have no right to push them to leave if they wanna stay
So you are saying this:
KR is discriminating Other Region players because they can't play on their server due to needing KR Identification.
NA is discriminating for implementing redirection to Elsword INT, even though you can still bypass it.
Let's get this straight shall we, something that has been officially done is purely Discrimination but we overlook that and go to places where it has not happened and try to "stop" that discrimination.
Oh I do perfectly believe some played longer than me, since I played in UK most of the time, apart also a little bit in NA server when UK server was not even there yet.
but am I saying they should be forced out? no.
Are they supposed to be pushed away? no. not up to us to decide.
Now, I have no idea where do you think I said "away with non-europeans". If it was by me mentioning the Latency levels. No, I couldn't care less I have good enough internet to not get constant 150 Ping Players. Sure there are lots of them but since I don't queue at night time I don't meet those.
I'm saying that they have no actual rights to say "this is our server" provided they are nowhere near Europe nor do they own GameForge. Since believe or not some other region players say that along with "Get out of our server".
Since other region players say that we should do the same huh ? Just think about it if you were on another server for any reasons and some people is trying to push you to leave, would you appreciate it ? No one will, you're free to decide if you wanna stay or leave right ?
Just let them chose for themselves then
Hahaha, you know what is funny. I actually would leave if they asked me to leave. Just like I left NA because people in PvP couldn't stomach me and my poor network connection.
And I legitimately appreciate it. If they did not I would not have found out Elsword UK has launched. Thus I would have never played there. Thus I would never be here to begin with.
if I generalize it to many people and not me specifically , yes, I can half agree, because there are tons of people that feel upset over an insult that is not even meant towards them or is even coincidental in some cases.
There is a main issue with what you're saying that people have a choice if they want to stay or not.
If we put it in reality. You have a choice to continue working or quit. But not when you are about to get fired for w/e reason.
But hey, we're talking about Internet game! how dare people mention reality!?
Please stop. There are things that are ethical, I respect that you are being kind and respectful of others and people that are being in your mind discriminated, though reality is different there is no person on this earth that is not being discriminated. Alone or Bundled up into one Vague Given name.
This Threads name is (NON-)European and their ping. Suggesting that its focusing on any player that has high ping together with non-Europeans and Europeans.
This thread's name is a dog whistle, whose purpose is to suggest that non-Europeans lag harder than Europeans, which therefore makes them inferior players.
You already got answered by Nitros. Also There is clear distinction between having the round brackets and none. Having the brackets on (NON-) basically means that non-europeans are included together with Europeans. Having no brackets would generalize it to only non-europeans.
Big difference. But you're so blind with prejudice to defend non-europeans and the fact that whole discussion revolved around other region players that you did not consider it that way.
nevertheless, thanks at least for trying to defend them. I'm sure those non-europeans that actually don't want to leave or be kicked out because of lag issues will be grateful to some degree.
I do not say that other region players cannot play in Elsword EU, I'm saying that they have no actual rights to say "this is our server" provided they are nowhere near Europe nor do they own GameForge.
Are Europeans allowed to claim rights to "their server" in your opinion? None of us own Gameforge, and I assume most of us don't even hold shares, hence we all have the same right to be at this server (which according to ToS is none, but I think you get the point).
You missed the point. The point was they are free to play as long as they behave. Did I suggest that Europeans own the server? No. I did not. Though if you want me to touch on this... GameForge are European, so server is owned by Europeans. But that does not matter. Why you may ask? Because they are a company. They are thinking what will profit them more as a publisher.
By that I mean, stop with the points that everyone lags. Yes, they do, but their scope of lag is a huge difference if you compare the two.
Thanks, oh wise super game master, but here's the thing: People don't care. Whenever there is lag, be it a spike or constant latency, people will cry foul and try to ban players on shaky ground. That has been true pretty much since the conception of competitive online gaming.
Funny, during all these years, whenever I PvPed someone and they had medium ping. I still enjoyed it and did not say anything about it. Are you sure you should be generalizing all players like that? Yes, Indeed there will be those that whine about it but not all of them. Those that are frustrated over anything over 50ping will be, yea. Anyone else no.
From my great experience as oh so wise super game master, I had more players having issues with insults during/after PvP than lag. That is solely from PMs to me...
Ah, also, I'll quote myself since..somehow people still think I'm All-In to kick out Non-Europeans
I tried to be as Neutral as possible towards this, with explaining few things that people seem to forget to mention.
No, I'm not against any suggestions.
No, I'm not for any suggestions.
I'm just a poor peasant that shall wait for GameForges judgement. Do they do something regard this or not.
There we go.
